Is Kathryn Kuhlman a false teacher?

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Is Kathryn Kuhlman a false teacher?

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I just read your response to women preachers in the church. It caught my attention because I too shared the same view on that topic. But once I read kathryn kuhlman's biography and listened to her sermons and it's obvious that God called her to that ministry It was very obvious that God sovereignly lead her into giving up everything for the preaching the Gospel. That was His plan/will for her life. Sure, i'd have to agree there are women out there that feed off of power and are driven by rebellion to from authority but I don't understand how you can blunted say for God that he will never call and anoint a woman to preach over both men and women. Because in kathryn kuhlman's life, she bared the fruits of the spirit and was a women who feared the Lord.

CAN WE JUDGE AT ALL?

I want to be very careful and avoid being a “heresy hunter,” or a person who is solely focused on finding faults and flaws in everyone and everything. I understand everyone has flaws and is fallible, and it’s not my intention to chase down every person who does or thinks something wrong, for I myself surely have. However, things said publicly and taught as doctrine, need to be addressed publicly. Public figures who take their lives into the public eye, should be judged publicly. The Scriptures command us to judge and discern the truth, and they remind this to us very often (Mat 7:15,16; 2 Tim 4:3,4; Acts 20:29-31; 2 Pet 2:1, 3:16,17; Col 2:8; Heb 13:9). In the Bible Jesus is shown warning people to beware of false teachers even those who do miracles and appear to have done prominent things in Christian ministry (Mat 7:21-23). Some think that if you critique any well known leader you are simply jealous of their level of influence, and just that you merely hate everyone who is well known. This may be true in some cases, however, it is a logical fallacy to assume any critic is merely jealous and therefore the criticism should be ignored.

PROOF OF GENDER ROLES BECAUSE OF HER LIFE?

Your argument seems to come down to the fact that because she accomplished much (which is open to debate) she is clearly the evidence for a particular view of women in ministry. The error with that view is that it makes experience become as valid in defining doctrine, and perhaps even more so, than scripture, tradition, or reason. What if a teacher of another religion, such as Islam, had the same results as Kuhlman? What if that person had a huge ministry with many followers, claimed to believe in the Old Testament and in a historical Jesus? What if many people claimed to have experienced many good things from an encounter with this muslim? Would his life and the personal experience of those who encountered him convince you to join his movement? If you are a Christian, I hardly think you would take into account that as your evidence. Accounts of miracles have been shown to be false on many occasions, even though people have believed them to be true (1). In any event, is this not the specific method that Jesus warns us to avoid? He spoke of false teachers that would come and try to sway people with their miracles and their works. If we view a “supernatural resume” as the reason for validating any manner of Biblical teaching, we end up in exactly the snare Christ warned us about. For then any antichrist could come in, do a few signs and miracles, and sway everyone to believe in his teachings.

HER MINISTRY WAS MARKED WITH INCONSISTENCIES

Kathryn Kuhlman, as well as most people, has said numerous things that were beneficial to others, however, in conjunction she taught other things were harmful. In the end this type of concoction of truths with untruths is dangerous because with the good we take in the bad. Below are some reasons I am skeptical of her ministry, I’m not sure if we can be certain whether she purposefully deceived others, or was herself self-deceived, though I would guess it is the latter. We are not asked to judge her heart, motives, or intentions but since she was a public minister, we ought to carefully weigh her words and actions and compare them to what the Bible teaches (Acts 17:11). In the end she has a resume that includes some very questionable behaviors and teachings, which were done publicly but never repented of in the same fashion.

She committed open and unrepentant adultery

She became involved in an affair with a married evangelist Burroughs Waltrip. There is a collection of serious evidence, including many eyewitness reports that she was involved with him as far back as in 1935 (Telephone Interview with Dennis Brown, February 25, 1992 as reported in “The Woman Behind The Miracles.”). He left his wife with two young children and married Kathryn a few years later in 1938. This was not something she ever considered a sin, though the Scriptures say it is. In fact Kuhlman had a personal (false) prophecy to validate it, she literally said about their new life together “that God had revealed a new plan” (Daughter Of Destiny, Jamie Buckingham). According to her it was by Gods revelation that she take a married man away from his wife and children. This is highly questionable.

She had an "unbiblical" and unrepentant divorce.

Details of this are few and in between, but both her and Waltrip separated in 1946, partly due to the fact that details about their affair became well known and hindered both her and his public ministry. There is record of her telling her friends “it was a mistake” before getting an unbiblical divorce. However, she never publicly recanted for her false prophetic declaration that her marriage was according to God’s desire.

She lied to cover it up

She repeatedly lied and tried to cover up this part of her life, never repenting. Instead of admitting her self-prophecy and adultery was a sinful act or failure, she often got frustrated and tried to cover her past. According to her official biography (Daughter Of Destiny, Jamie Buckingham) when questioned by reporters she would make statements like “We were never married. I never took my marriage vows,” she said, her eyes flashing. ‘Do you know what happened? I’ll tell you what happened. I fainted — passed out completely, I tell you — right before I was to take my vows.’” In this case the book continues by saying the reporter showed her a photocopy of the marriage license which she denied by saying “she didn’t remember.”

She had shady financial practices

She lived a rich and lavish lifestyle, and had serious financial allegations against her that were settled privately and secretly. Her official biography reports her buying dresses for a modern equivalent of $5000 each, a $750,000 jet and etc. All this with money donated from her crusades. Kuhlman was sued by Paul Bartholomew, her personal administrator, who claimed she kept $1 million in jewelry and $1 million in fine art hidden away and sued her for $430,500 for breach of contract.Two former associates accused her in the lawsuit of diverting funds and illegally removing records, which she denied and said the records were not private.According to Kuhlman, the lawsuit was settled prior to trial. She also changed her will to give most of her cash (obtained through donations) to her friends and family instead of the ministry like promised. Unfortunately her finances on many occasions appear to be highly irregular and secretive, which appears to be inconsistent with what the Bible teaches.

She had many false healings/prophecies

A thorough examination of 23 of her publicly reported healings by a medical doctor (Healing: A Doctor in Search of a Miracle) showed zero true healings in the long run. These people examined were not those that merely thought they were healed, but actually were confirmed by Kuhlman’s prophetic word. One example is a “woman who was said to have been cured of spinal cancer threw away her brace and ran across the stage at Kuhlman’s command; her spine collapsed the next day, according to Nolen, and she died four months later.” (Ibid. pg 228). An interesting story that documents how Philip Yancey nearly lost faith because of a Kuhlman event (2). Doctor Nolan was a Christian and said of Kuhlman “[her] lack of medical sophistication is a critical point. I don’t believe she is a liar or a charlatan or that she is, consciously, dishonest. I think that she believes the Holy Spirit works through her to perform miraculous cures. I think that she sincerely believes that the thousands of sick people who come to her services and claim cures are, through her mini-strations being cured of organic diseases. I also think—and my investigation confirms this—that she is wrong.” (Quotes and facts are from an article in McCall’s 9/74)

She taught many "unbiblical" things

Many of her teachings obscured the traditional Christian teachings about Jesus and replaced the cross with mystical ideas about spirituality. According to many Christians, the most dangerous type of false teacher is one who speaks many true things and then adds something untrue into the mix. Dr Nolan, among many others noted that that the focus of her teachings tended to shift away from Jesus Christ and onto the Holy Spirit. Whereas the scriptures seem to say that the Holy Spirit will testify of Jesus, not the other way around. Kuhlman often focused solely on spiritual things instead of traditional biblical teaching. For example she coined some of the terminology for “slain in the spirit,” teaching that: “Our spiritual beings are not wired for God’s full power, and when we plug into that power, we just cannot survive it. We are wired for low voltage; God is high voltage through the Holy Spirit.” (The Woman Behind The Miracles, page 220). This is inconsistent with the Scripture. It far exceeds and adds to what the Bible very often teaches about the Holy Spirit, namely that He is a helper, a comforter and our sanctification, not one who is a electrical power to shock us to the floor. Another example is that Kuhlman taught that “whenever we find the presence of the Holy Spirit, we will always find the supernatural.” This seems very proper at first, however, it completely invalidates the mainstream Christian view of the internal work of the Holy Spirit on human hearts in sanctification. She also taught that “Faith is that quality or power by which the things desired become the things possessed.” This is a very mystical statement, one that draws away from the object of faith (Jesus) to the psychic power of personal faith (human), making her teaching inconsistent with traditional Christianity. This is the way mystics teach their pupils to attain magical powers, by using strong personal “psychic faith-power” to force things to happen. Christian faith is different, see my article on the topic here: http://egblog.yuriyandinna.com/2010/04/20/faith-is-super-psychic-mind-force/

She promoted spiritual oneness with Catholics

She was very prominent in promoting a oneness union between protestants and Catholics. When she spoke with Pope Paul, she said ““When I met Pope Paul there was a Oneness.” This “oneness” was carried into and through her interdenominational healing services until her death.(Part One Foundations For Apostasy: 1950-1985, Ed Tarkowski). Part of what defines Protestant Christianity is the disagreement over catholic doctrines, such as Mary being another mediator between man and God, for Kuhlman. For Kuhlman this division was nonexistent because her form of Protestant Christianity was not explicitly defined by the bible, instead it was experiential in nature, and any who shared the experience, regardless the theology, were in unity with her. This point does not make her “guilty by association” but conveys the inconsistency of her beliefs and the very staunch charismatic fundamentalists who are often her followers.

MORE CRITIQUES

Below are more critiques of Katheryn Kuhlman from evangelical and pentecostal perspectives as, just so you can see I am being extremely fair and not simply quoting people who don’t believe in modern faith healers but only “cold dead faith.”

CHARISMATIC - “True and False Revival” by Answer Strom

EVANGELICAL - Chapter from a great book, titled Occult ABC

PENTACOSTAL: http://www.pawcreek.org/end-times/kathryn-kuhlman

Comments (46)

Rgna003
All said and done, Katherine Khulman was a human, and that God should choose a weak and imperfect vessel like her shows the heart of God. She may have had character flaws and many weaknesses, but it is left to God to chose his vessel of choice. In the OT God used a donkey to convey His thoughts which means He can use any one of us with all our stupidity and foolishness............. May the one who has no sin cast the first stone. God's ways are highter than our ways and His thoughts, higher than our thoughts. I am glad he has not given up on us, but uses our imperfections to show His perfection, our weaknesses to show His strength.
Resist
God used those vessels to preach his word not heresy. If it is a message against the truth of the bible then it is not from God. Stupid is one thing. Heresy is another
Dre
True!
Bobby Oommen
Just a very clever fraud in the end.
Amy Payne
If it goes against the bible and the fruit is marred by sin without repentance it is no longer biblical, nor are they noteworthy to call on or read any of there books, other than on what is unholy and what not to do.
Fk
I like your comment
Abebe
I like your statement
Ian Francis
Very very well stated. I fully concur. Thank you.
Ian Francis
Very very well-stated, Rgna003. I fully concur. Thank you for your input.
Evangelist Joy Ita
I agree with Rgna003. It is true that Kathryn Kuhlman had character flaws. Everyone has them, including all the skeptics and critics out there. So, let he who has no sin, and has not broken any Biblical law, cast the first stone. I am a woman preacher, but I know my limits. It was the people who heard me preach who first told me about her. Then, the Holy Spirit said something about fashioning. my ministry after the pattern of Kathryn's ministry. I regard her as my mentor, even though I did not meet her personally. It is true she led many to Christ, and if you think she was a devil, bear in mind that she made it to heaven. I am hoping to be able to make it, like she did! As for her critics, they can tear her and her ministry down as best they could, or they can start preparing to go to heaven, assuming they want to go there!
KimMartinez
I don't believe the writer of this post was in any way attempting to cast stones. It is biblical for each of us in the body to judge the fruit of others in the body. If adultery, lying and a lack of repentance were an ongoing issue in her life, then it is sound and biblical to say that her fruit was poor if it was even fruit of the spirit. Messiah left specific instructions NOT to enable to the sin of others but to confront it. The apostles followed these instructions as shown in the epistles. I agree with the writer, we don't know what was in her heart, however, out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. If she spoke anything contrary to Scripture that is not the fruit of the spirit nor the (Holy) spirit working in her. It seems to bother a few of the commentators on this thread that her works are being criticized because of the idea that "we are not to judge". But I have to ask, how is it that you're able to judge the hearts of those she supposedly led to Messiah? How do you know for sure? Is it because they stood up in a crowd of people and publicly "said" they believed? How many people do you know say they believe and yet don't obey? Faith without works is dead. A person's mere words are nothing, but the fruit of their faith is what shines. How do you know she went to heaven? I know I'm way late on the replies, but I just wanted to share my thoughts, not that it matters. :) God Bless.
joy clayton
I don't think women were to be on display as she was. I thought there was something off about her, didn't know those things but that would disqualify her for me. More, being a woman is wrong to take this lead. Sid Roth said he got his start there. I stay with the Bible.
Noelle R Case
Very true. You have the most true response Amen.
Michael Murray
When God calls you to Preach you are held to a higher degree, and if you falter the way she did, she should have stepped down. Any other Pastor who makes the mistakes she made, the elders would have asked her to step down. That shows to me, that possibly God did call her, but after the adultery she committed, that itself was grounds for stepping down.
jeff
A Christian can have assurance of heaven, but someone who commits adultery for years, never repents, and lies about it happening probably isn't filled with enough of the Spirit to heal anyone " not that that it's a force and i don't want to mislead anyone by saying amount. But it sounds like someone walking in the flesh not the Spirit.
Michael Murray
When God calls you to Preach you are held to a higher degree, and if you falter the way she did, she should have stepped down. Any other Pastor who makes the mistakes she made, the elders would have asked her to step down. That shows to me, that possibly God did call her, but after the adultery she committed, that itself was grounds for stepping down.
Francis McHale
Sorry but your imperfect human justification for her unbiblical teaching, adulterous life, PHONEY miracles just does not cut it mate.
Cheryl
Go forth and be as effective as Kathryn Kuhlman in relieving human suffering through the power and presence of Jesus Christ.
Cfitz
She was unbiblical in her teaching, EVERY "healing" which was investigated, turned out to be false, the unrepentant adultery &etc &etc. These are not "character flaws". These are wilful sin and ungodly behaviors. She cannot be defended in any of this.
Jason
It's weird that charasmatics tend to discount the Bible for experience-based 'new relevation' but LOVE the 'cast the first stone' verse, which incidentally is in a disputed passage. I don't think people are judging her. In fact, the author is extremely balanced. He is merely weighing up the evidence. The evidence of conversion is a changed life. Messed up people stop chasing money or lust and change. So yes we are all flawed sinners, but there are signs of troubling issues here. Equally, if someone is super charged with the Holy Spirit as KK claimed surely their teaching and actions should be Biblical and set apart, like Paul.
Kj Plattner
I would not discount a woman being used by God in most any position - however I would lean the direction as I heard J. Vernon McGee commented on his program: "Show me a woman in the ministry and I will show you a dozen men whom did not step up to God's leading" (or pretty darn close! its beena few decades). Naturally, we have qualifications for being a prophet or praying, examples of Dorcas as a deacon, etc.
Walt Kam
Kathryn Kuhlman had many healing meetings at Melodyland Christian Center in Anaheim, California pastored by the scoundrel Ralph Wilkerson whose financial escapades caused the church to go bankrupt! Melodyland School of Theology (MST) was its theological seminary college level school and had on its staff Walter Martin, who was also known as the Bible Answer Man and head of CRI (the Christian Research Institute), John Warwick Montgomery noted Christian apologist and lawyer who later divorced his wife by signing her name to the divorce documents and not telling her about it, Dr. John Rea (noted Old Testament scholar and an editor of the New International Version of the Bible). The first president of the school was Dr. J. Rodman Williams (Charismatic Theologian, author of a Systematic Theology). Rev. Ralph Wilkerson was known for doing things that were mean, vindictive and unchristlike. Hence the LA Time reported about Tentative Melodyland Ruling Goes Against Wilkerson August 27, 1986|JOHN SPANO | Times Staff Writer Fundamentalist preacher Ralph Wilkerson acted without legal authority when he locked a dissident board of directors out of an Anaheim seminary last year and posted armed guards to keep them away, a judge ruled Tuesday. Superior Court Judge Judith M. Ryan issued a tentative ruling in the first phase of the complex legal tug of war over control of the Melodyland School of Theology. The school was founded by Wilkerson as a spinoff of his independent Melodyland Christian Center at 1400 Freedman Way in Anaheim. The church attracted a congregation of up to 10,000 on Sundays in the early 1980s before falling victim to philosophical divisions within the congregation and financial difficulties. http://articles.latimes.com/1986-08-27/local/me-14257_1_tentative-ruling The LA Times also reported about Pastor Ralph Wilkerson Pastor to Talk in Fraud Case His lawyer says he will answer questions about Gregory Setser, accused of taking $160 million from Christians. July 19, 2004|E. Scott Reckard | Times Staff Writer Orange County pastor Ralph A. Wilkerson has agreed to answer questions about a former associate accused of raising more than $160 million from evangelical Christians in an elaborate international investment fraud, Wilkerson's attorney said. Wilkerson, 77, was criticized last month by a court-appointed receiver who said the pastor had failed to help recover assets that would benefit people left destitute by the alleged scam run by Gregory E. Setser, an Inland Empire-based entrepreneur. http://articles.latimes.com/2004/jul/19/business/fi-setser19
Walt Kam
According to Jamie Buckingham who wrote about her, It's a fact that Kathryn Khulman hated other ministries including Oral Roberts and FGBMF. She thought her ministry was the only valid one. And the sad reality she died unhealed on the operating table at ORU with a man she hated. She also had a big fight with Dino her piano player and many others! In reality she was not a nice person?
Ian Francis
While the reality is that she was an extremely loving person, she was human. She did not want healing following her heart surgery, feeling that she had completed her life's mission, and made a decision to go home to be with her Lord. Perhaps she would have lived another 15-20 years had she cutback on her schedule and gotten more physical rest. Only God knows. When we continue to break God's natural laws we pay the consequences and many are not healed for this reason. I am in no way judging Miss Kuhlman's spiritual state for she sincerely felt that---by the power of God's Spirit---she could go on working tirelessly a job of five men. It would not be intentional sin but perhaps it was what the Old Testament refers to as "unintentional sin". Being human, perhaps she missed the mark in terms of not being kinder and gentler on her own physical body.
kop
look dr alberto rivera book - vatikan killers
Can
I read thru a lot of the discussion. It was disheartening. So I'm going to leave some stuff from Jesus' ministry. It's all in the gospels. 1. Jesus had 5000 recorded at one of his events. 2. Jesus was accused of casting out demons by demons. He expected the rest of us to be accused of the same, probably by more religious leaders. (So was John the Baptist, they said he had a demon) 3. Jesus was called a blasphemer because he healed on the Sabbath and of course made himself equal to God. It was the religious leaders misunderstanding of the scriptures that led them to misunderstand healing on the Sabbath. 4. Right after Jesus rose from the dead the religious leaders forged and circulated a lie the disciples took the body. Hence no real resurrection. 5. Blasphemy against the holy spirit is a no no. (Per Jesus) 6. The scriptures say they will know true followers when signs and wonders follow...and casting out demons. We should all be over acquainted with Jesus' ministry to best discern others ministries and if they align with what Jesus did.
michael moshopoulos
I belong to the true church-the church of Pentecost. As a result I know that these so-called faith healers are phony. We don't make a show out of the healing miracles by filling stadiums. My church has been ordaining only men for 2000 years. The pentecostal movement was founded in 1901 and the baptist church in 1609 which means that these churches are false. Only my church is 2000 years old. It sounds brazen to talk like this, but my statements are true.
Keagan
Honestly stop been critical, each and every minister has a thorn in his/her flesh so as not to glory in oneself...even from your illustration shows nothing but envy,jealous and ungrateful...she left marks which can never be erased.....what have you done? Built your ministry on criticism.....check your life from the time you become a minister and conclude the case....of all the good things God did for His people through her,you still want to find some fault, which you will find in everyone including yourselves....thank you for your hardwork。but let's work together rather than attacking each other, if you think what God did in her ministry was an error then teach Him how to do it better in your life....
Jesus Silva
Matthew 7:3-5, 16:6; Romans 16:17, 18; 1 Corinthians 5:1, 9-11, 13, 11:19, 14:34, 35; 2 Corinthians 11:13; Galatians 1:6-9, 2.11-14; 1 Timothy 1:20, 6:3-5; 2 Timothy 2:17, 18, 4:14; 3 John 1:9; Jude 1:11; Revelation 2:3, 9.
Ian Francis
Very very well-stated, Rgna003. I fully concur. Thank you for your input.
synty
therfore all the criticism towards mama Kathryn is dat she is not qualified. studying d bible made me understand dat most times d qualification God uses are the unqualified once, therefore God found her qualified........ Hmmmm a woman who was of great humility so much so that even after mistakes she could allow her self 2 n used by God ( such courage), it's only Christ that perfects a man and he found Mama Kathryn Kulman..... Such koinonia she had with d Holyghost, I sincerely honor u ma..... As d eyes of d father searches d earth through his spirit, may he find men 2 transform and use......father please keep blessing mama Kathryn Kulman even as she is with you......u will forever be in my heart ma, I love u
Ryan
Just because someone has powers and can perform miracles doesn't mean they were sent by God. They can be receiving powers from another spiritual entity. So instead of judging people by their powers or influence lets judge them by their obedience to the word and how they live humbly and meek while spreading Jesus. We tend to begin to worship people and their lives and deeds instead of Jesus's. Look at the love of Jesus in the person and not the actual person. I Love you all
Dre
The believer only needs to read and study the bible constantly and ask God to guide them by his Holy Spirit within their hearts. This will prepare the believer to sift between truth and lies. The Spirit within our hearts is called the Spirit of Truth and since he is the Spirit of Truth, he will teach us Truth and expose lies. Any Christian who is not able to recognize Truth different from Lies should question 1. Whether or not they have the Holy Spirit 2. If they do have the Holy Spirit if they are truly submitting to the Holy Spirit. 3. If they are being filled with the Holy Spirit on a constant basis 4. If they are spending enough time in the bible Scripturally speaking, Kathryn Kuhlman reminds me of Jezebel the wife of Ahab and Jezebel spoken of in the Book of Revelation. Her doctrine was very weak and not consistent with the foundation teachings of The Lord Jesus and his Apostles. As you may now realize, I don't mince words. I call a false prophet what he or she is. We must understand as Christians that we have demonic spirits in our world who can perform signs and wonders, just like the Jannes and Jombres who opposed Moses by mimicking some of the signs god did thru Moses. God's standard for his ministers or lay person has not changed and one of the biggest call of God to us is Holiness. This doesn't mean we wont falter but it does mean that we don't CONTINUE in sin. 1 John 3:4-6 4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
Kay walker
Mary should be thought of more as an intercessor. Just like our pastors and friends pray for us, so does Mary.
Eve
What about David Wilkerson's church in New York, which has over 10,000 members, who believe in spiritual gifts over doctrine. David Wilkerson spent five years of mentoring under Kathryn Kuhlman. Some of his prophecies deemed true but many deemed false. Today, the church he left is quite entertaining, emerging, confusing on doctrine, promoting contemplative prayer, and encouraging on ecumenical. The church is beloved by the world and a tourist site in Manhatten. The emphasized teaching is the baptism if the Holy Spirit and a legalistic, unbiblical law of tithing 10 percent of gross income. The church promotes David Wilkerson’s legacy.
Tini Kaloumaira
The bible is clear, the truth and not experience will set you free. Satan deceives the whole world with signs and lying wonders in these last days and only those who receive the love of the Truth will escape that they might be saved. 2 Thessalonians 2: 9-10 "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved" Are not the ministers of Satan wolves in sheep's clothing mixing Truth with error to lead many to Hell. A little leaven leavens the whole loaf and the loaf is spiced up with signs and lying wonders. Many will come to Jesus on that day and say Lord did we do this and that in your name and Jesus will tell them get away from me I do not know you. Truth and the word of God stands and judges every false teacher throughout history including Kathryn Kuhlman and the Pope, without repentance of their wicked ways they and them that are being misled are both condemned by the truth as revealed by the word of God.
Paul
If quoting scripture can be used to cast doubt on someone claiming they can perform miracles, as it can, then that miracle is in the shadow of doubt, and if evidence is found that even one “miracle” healing of a person by another person was a lie, it just shows you how important scripture is, which i thought was about salvation through faith in Jesus Christ predominantly, not about healing physical ailments through faith ( although possible no doubt ) We can’t fathom everything that is GOD’s will, but we can have faith in it. If a person desires to be healed and has faith, where in scripture does it say it’s possible to be healed but only through another person ? “Ask and you shall receive” from GOD I thought, not from GOD through a self proclaimed “faith healer” Just give me scripture, the whole scripture, and nothing but the scripture. PC
JWB001
It comes down to fruit. The Bible says that the believer will be known by their fruit. If the fruit of your life, ministry, interaction with others, is not filled with the fruits of the spirit, then how can we argue with the fact the fruit is bad? The Old Testament says that a prophet who speaks for God, and the prophecy does not come to pass must be put to death. The New Testament says we need to mark them, and not associate with them.
Bill
Hello, This is the most wonderful and truthful blog, about any false minister. Very accurate but in a way that is pure. Regarding Kuhlman, it's true, she was entirely false, and dangerous. We all want to believe good things about ministers or so called ministers, but now, in 2020, there is so much evidence, that it is important to seek truth, and not feelings. Even Hinn, has denounced his beliefs. Lastly, the people here, who say that God uses weak vessels, or not to judge, etc.. This is the standard churchy reply, and these commenters are almost as guilty as the evil Kuhlman, whether she deceived herself or did everything, on purpose.
Jim T
I"m glad to see this research and discourse in an open format. Its very sad that she wanted what seemed normal in a marraige unfortunately she bit the apple with her husband which left his wife and family for her, and then they married, which she denied later. In one of her speeches she talked with the student body at Oral Roberts Univ. In this speech in about 1972 she used the word "I" over 100 times and the word "Me" over approx. 50 times. In this speech she stated infactically that the youth of 1972 would be the last generation that would see Great Tribulation which she made it clear that God had told her this. She was very flamboyant and gracious appearing, people beloved her dearly but in truth she was very mortal and fallible as the rest of us, and the believers of those days spent a great deal of time watching idlely by while the show went on. Before was the Aimee S. McPherson who was exposed as a fraud, but non the less people would also create a "Heroine" identity for her as well. Hero worship, wanting heros, and what a mistake we made of it. Now we have sit through 40 years of Benny Hinn with the same report, and commentary at the end of his career. Into the 21 century there are no doubt at least 100 fake healers to take their place still carrying the aformentioned crew on a pedestal as they bilk millions of viewers and of millions of dollars.
Tony Hancock
This is a very fair and well written article backed up by clear scriptural teaching....the author is clear that the judgement is not from an unrighteous perspective regarding Ms Kuhlman's sincerity of belief or personhood. Rather the author judges as God reminds us we must....judging that which He has judged already and that is the difference between truth and error. Peter himself declared when he coined the gk term parasusousin (sorry I may have incorrect spelling here) that the most insidious lie and deception occurs when truth is laid alongside error. This is how Satan works ( Temptation of Jesus) he appeals to man's pride to deliver a tainted yet Biblically sounding message or prophecy that tickles the itching ears of the eager and often undiscerning listener......the lie delivered appeals to the listener because it comes alluringly dressed offering a response to our feelings, emotions, the remnants of our "old-creation".....it is seductive in that it looks, sounds and smells like Jesus or the Holy Spirit......but it simply is not. It is a tragedy that some who have commented here are so entrenched in their spiritual bias regarding Ms Kuhlman, or similar teachers and associated false doctrines that they don't seem to want to weigh up the words or lifestyle of unrepented sin of their beloved teachers against the straight and sure edge of God's uncompromising Word. God says about those who want to hold onto lies and won't discern, that He will hand them over to the whims of their ways....God will, as a judgement allow, even provide more of what their hearts desire unless they awaken and turn......such things are not easy to say, some of my closest friends caught in error have taken a decade or longer before realising by Gods Spirit that all they trusted in, agreed to, endorsed, funded is actually diametrically opposed to the truth the Author of our Bible intended. That ridiculous cliché, often quoted - " oh I just eat the meat and spit out the bones" again is contrary to Christ.....rather they should heed the words of Jesus - "a little leaven, leavens the whole loaf"...... a cool, clear glass of water when we are thirsty is attractive to our senses but if it has just a drop or two of poison then it will kill!......It may not kill us immediately however the more poison rendered and the more we drink of it the sooner it will bring death. I implore you, don't believe my words but seek truth by studying all that you have thought or believed previously.......In His love and peace to you all.
Suzy Goheen
Bravo ~ well stated. ✝️🙏
Rt
Just because someone has powers and can perform miracles doesn't mean they were sent by God. They can be receiving powers from another spiritual entity. So instead of judging people by their powers or influence lets judge them by their obedience to the word and how they live humbly and meek while spreading Jesus. We tend to begin to worship people and their lives and deeds instead of Jesus's. Look at the love of Jesus in the person and not the actual person. I Love you all
Danielle French
The word “tradition” should not be used when speaking about the Bible period. There’s scripture and there’s tradition on how the people are used to doing things not based on Gods law but rather what they made a “practice” as Christ even rebuked. 2. She may have said some questionable things but that doesn’t mean everything she said was false at every point in her life. I’ve yet to still hear anyone talk about the Holy Spirit she does. She is very sensitive to the holy spirit! Idk when her life took a turn because I have not seen much I do know that at one point in they life she was lead by God. We don’t know what her actual struggle was, and just because she was public, does not mean she has to share her struggles publicly no matter what. She has to answer to God, not us. Tho I agree with exposing false teachings, I’m also careful with calling myself a Christian if I don’t walk fully in Jesus name! So if anyone calls themselves a Christian but walks by sight, they are fooling themselves and using the lord’s name in vain and would not judge anyone else regardless if they know all scripture. First remove the log out of your own eye, before tending to the speck in someone else’s eye! 3. Have we forgotten how some of Gods kings that he appointed also fell short? But they were still used for a purpose and God blessed them and took away blessings. I haven’t seen much of what she preached. But I do believe she had an anointing on her life, and like many who when astray, it is not impossible for her to have fallen short and allowed deception to influence her. And regardless of what she has done, let us not forget that we don’t always walk a straight path. That our hearts are not like Christ, and then at any given moment if we don’t remain in Christ, we too can be influenced by the deceiver. Especially when we’ve become proud by the work of our hands.
Newton koome
Yeah,we do not deny the fact false prophets have dominated today's church and it's true they are leading many astray.It is evident and obvious that many will face God's judgement in hell by regarding themselves as servants of God"we did miracles in your name,we healed the sick and many things of that sort."Yeah,false prophet will perform many miracles in the name of God.The objection I may present against this post is that,many times our eyes are so much on just pointing out what's wrong and denying the fact that God used that person and many were able to find true salvation through that person.Another thing,as much as we see false prophets coming in and doing false miracles to preach the wrong gospel,still we see in the Church of the apostles itself and also our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ performing miracles,healing the sick and many other things.We also see in 1Corinthians 12 Paul writing about the gifts of the Holy spirit and he also includes those gift of healing and miracles.As preaching is a gift purposed to enhance the unity of the church,still healing and working of miracles is a gift too for the unity of the Church.I'll urge us something,as much as we want to expose the wolves in sheep's clothing,let us be careful with the far we want to go,not because they are God's servant but because you don't want to blaspheme what the Holy spirit is doing.Jesus counted that as a sin that cannot be forgiven(Mathew 12:31)